SALAMENCE IS NOW UBER?!?!?!? WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH SMOGON?!?!?

Well as you can see from the tittle salamence is now uber.

www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/salamence

wide range of movepool, you have to sacrifice one poke to know how to counter it...tbh i dont like the tiers as is...they should be based on power not usage ( but its much harder to calculate tho) so i dont see why not salamance...i know good dragon gone bad...

Salamence Isnt Uber Material IMO

One Ice Shard Could Kill It I Herd From Cirrus A Donphans Ice Shard Could To It Needs To Go Back Into OU

I Dont wanna make a new team D=

i think smogon's definition of uber is widening a little too much...

Too many counters in OU. 'Nuff said.

SMOGON.
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FAIL.

'Nuff said. Nobody listened to me when I said this.....and people STILL listen to Smogon.

its because people are to lazy to make a tier that works...you sort 490 odd pokemon into tiers that worked..

salamance is just getting caught up in what granchomp problem..wide spread of moves, yes easy to counter, but you have to let one of you pokemon die to find out the appropriate counter..true you can just you donphan/mamaswines (most ice type moves), but a STAB dragon dances+ dragon claw can ripp threw most things...EXAMPLE.....

your doing well with your scizor/azelf/ metagross/What ever right...as some people do....all of a sudden a salamance walks in, your quite nervous of salamance so you switch giving it the power to DD or even SUB up...(yer i have sen a few sublances) ..now sure most of you wil argue you can just attack with said pokemon...but SAY you do switch to your mamoswine/donphan...and it DD/SUBs one STAB outrage and you can say ohh crippled...or dead...if subed he may use DD within the sub...all afordable things...

Chrono wrote:its because people are to lazy to make a tier that works...you sort 490 odd pokemon into tiers that worked..

salamance is just getting caught up in what granchomp problem..wide spread of moves, yes easy to counter, but you have to let one of you pokemon die to find out the appropriate counter..true you can just you donphan/mamaswines (most ice type moves), but a STAB dragon dances+ dragon claw can ripp threw most things...EXAMPLE.....

your doing well with your scizor/azelf/ metagross/What ever right...as some people do....all of a sudden a salamance walks in, your quite nervous of salamance so you switch giving it the power to DD or even SUB up...(yer i have sen a few sublances) ..now sure most of you wil argue you can just attack with said pokemon...but SAY you do switch to your mamoswine/donphan...and it DD/SUBs one STAB outrage and you can say ohh crippled...or dead...if subed he may use DD within the sub...all afordable things...

If that's the case, let's send Gyara to Uber. Heck, send Kingdra there while you're at it. Or SubCMRachi. At least it gets perfect coverage with BoltBeam unlike Mence.

I'm actually okay with sending Jirachi to Uber. Not Salamence, though; most of the Pokemon on every one of my teams counter it well, and this is usually unintentional.

Chrono wrote:
your doing well with your scizor/azelf/ metagross/What ever right...as some people do....all of a sudden a salamance walks in, your quite nervous of salamance so you switch giving it the power to DD or even SUB up...(yer i have sen a few sublances) ..now sure most of you wil argue you can just attack with said pokemon...but SAY you do switch to your mamoswine/donphan...and it DD/SUBs one STAB outrage and you can say ohh crippled...or dead

if we do switch to said mamo/donny/WEAVILE

Ice shard which does gain priority would over power the speed boost and most likely kill


BTW

Jirachi Is Way Pwnr Than Salamence Switch the two and i would be somewhat happy

iam just stateing a reason smogon said did it.....but sure i see your point, with gyrarados and kingdra..but then granchomp shouldn't be uber iether..i know its pwnage but also easily defeated...

stop crying and use real pokemons like wailord

they said Garchomp was moved to uber since of its ability Sand Viel + its overall base stats

Agreed , i won't mind having Jirachi go into the uber metagame since of CMsub , Boltbeam and its Iron Head STAB + Serene Grace ability , Overall great stats and etc.

lol thats whats going on since i have been gone...down with blissey next :twisted:

Mence is in uber because it has no actual counters. It has checks, but no counters.

if you wanna be super manly you go all out with a gosh darn level 100 pidgey. awesome.

Oh well. What dragons are left in OU now?

I don't care because I stick to UU/NU teams now. :w

Altaria, Kingdra, Flygon and Dragonite. Gabite counts as well I guess.

Mercury wrote:Altaria, Kingdra, Flygon and Dragonite. Gabite counts as well I guess.

Inb4dragoniteisuber. Also, Gabite is the epitome of win at this point in the metagame.

Also inb4gyaraisuberandeverybodydefendsthatitisuber,eventhoughnowifyousayit'suber,peoplewillcallyouan00b.

You're probably right. Eventually the whole of OU will be Uber.

still think tires should be based on power not usage...

Chrono wrote:still think tires should be based on power not usage...

I changed them on a Pokemon simulator I have, and a few people complained about them, and one kid actually came in flaming them with swears and everything.
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Smogon brainwash FTL.

Tiers should definitely be based on power, and the way pokes are used. Not how often they're used, that's just silly xD

Cirrus wrote:I changed them on a Pokemon simulator I have, and a few people complained about them, and one kid actually came in flaming them with swears and everything.
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Smogon brainwash FTL.

1) I changed them. You were against it from the beginning.
2) More than a few people complained.
3) More than one kid complained, more than one kid got banned for it.
4) It's not your simulator. D:<

Mercury wrote:Tiers should definitely be based on power, and the way pokes are used. Not how often they're used, that's just silly xD

That was Cirrus's point some time ago, before I changed the tier names on the server we have. I told him naming them OverUSED, UnderUSED, NeverUSED on a tiering structure NOT BASED OFF OF USAGE is a stupid idea. Thankfully, he listened. It kills me when people say what I quoted, establish proper tiers based on power, and then name them based off usage. It makes no sense.

7 wrote:
1) I changed them. You were against it from the beginning.
2) More than a few people complained.
3) More than one kid complained, more than one kid got banned for it.
4) It's not your simulator. D:<

1. In the beginning, yes, but then I realized how dumb they really were. QUICK, EVERYONE, USE QWILFISH IN ALL YOUR TEAMS. Maybe we can get it to OU!!
2. I only caught one, but knowing POers, there were more.
3. Indeed. What gets me is how it upsets people so easily. Honestly, swearing and flaming over the names of Pokemon tiers?.....
4. It is now. Although you and CKC deserve lotsa credit.

7 wrote:It kills me when people say what I quoted

Quoting you so as to do that.